During the third hearing, knowing not what changed her mind, she said she was going with her mum leaving Ilavarasan. News7 Tamil TV News videos updated Daily, Latest Tamil news videos website, Watch Recent tamil news LIVE online. The Tamil Nadu police claimed that Ilavarasan, who had been forcibly separated from Divya, had killed himself by coming under the Coimbatore–Kurla Express (train no.11014) at … The mad leader and the equally idiotic followers did the mad act and allowed for the town to burn. There are hundreds of Dalits married to brahmins and other castes living in big metros and other cities harmoniously and positively, this is throughout nationwide. Good article but people will forget this in few days. It was four-five years ago, moreover, it is a matter relating to postmortem, so the doctors who have done this will be in a more competent position to talk about it,” he said. Ilavarasan, 23, (right) part of the Dalit community, formally known as Untouchables, and Divya, 20, (left) a higher caste Vanniyar, sparked riots in Tamil Nadu last year when they married in secret. Thanks for your time. Only on July 13, when the AIIMS doctors saw them? There were no cervical spine fractures seen, and no bruising around the cervical spine, which should have been the case, given the impact of being hit by a speeding train. When parties are allowed to form based on caste and religion, the whole concept of secularism is thrown into the trash. Though the government did some arrests here and there, there was no repaying of the lives of those 2 men. The CB-CID had asked me, ‘when the head was free to move, is it possible and mandatory to have injury to the spine and other associated injuries?’ Yes, in case of heavy impact to the skull such as in the case of running train, it will lead to extensive fractures of the skull bones, including cervical bones, and will have associated injuries. Dr. Thunder Chief had seen the shirt – Ilavarasan was wearing a white shirt, and there was no dirt on it. We appreciate his scientific knowledge and the queries he put forward in the interest of this case. Crucially, the injury is on the posterior side of the left hand. Ilavarasan's body was found on a culvert, near the railway track in Dharmapuri. Maradhi, oru desiya vyadhi. There were clearly no grease marks on the chest then. Their relationship was known to Ilavarasan's parents for at least a year before their elopement. Even someone with a measure of 300 mg can be normal, depending on many factors. Dreamed of a beautiful life together. You can talk to the investigation officer of the case, he’ll be in a better position … he will remember many things more than me. We have filed a detailed affidavit in the high court, subsequently, the case was also transferred to the CB-CID, the CB-CID has also done a re-investigation and also found that the facts found by the district police of Dharmapuri, by the investigation officer, is correct, and the HC after going into it in detail has found there is no need for any further investigation and they’ve closed the matter. So where did his shirt go missing? On February 21, following submission of the CB-CID report, the Madras high court bench of acting Chief Justice Hulvadi G. Ramesh and Justice R. Mahadevan ruled that Ilavarasan’s death was a case of suicidal death, and not murder. Those who perpetrated this crime rejoiced at the death of each life. When we asked the local police, they said they’d handed it back to the railway police. The consequences Of this marriage were more terrible to bear than a natural disaster like a cyclone. A place where I write something to think about or something that helps! https://openthemagazine.com/lounge/books/a-hidden-firebrand So that is my comment.”, Sowmya Sivakumar is an independent journalist based in Chennai, Ilavarasan's Death Was Definitely 'Not a Suicide', Says Doctor Who Examined Body. What about the possibility of the ‘crow catch’ position, which was put forth by other doctors? | 'Money is the new caste in India' Even some Caste based Political parties criticized the inter-caste marriage of Ilavarasan and Divya. It is clear that had he been standing in that position, i.e, at the edge of the track and facing the train, the whole of his front left side should have been injured. Is that okay..?? AGAIN PROVED THAT TRUE LUV ENDS IN DEATH .............. jathikalai kathalipavarkala mudinthal..........kathalukum katru kodungal managalai maranthu jathikalai parthu kathalika. And about RESERVATION. The nature and place of his injury rules out all possibilities of a railway accident in whichever position he may [have] been in. Divya and IlavarasanIlavarasan, whose marriage to the upper caste girl triggered anti-Dalit violence in three villages of the district dharmapuri. And yes, it seems as though I must agree that Illavarasan did not kill himself. I am sure an intelligent person as you must agree that unskilled people ending up in crucial sectors of our economy causes serious inefficiencies. What that means, when a society is deprived and abused, segregated certain groups as untouchables and totally kept them out of any and every opportunity, a equal opportunity measure can help heal this disease, and then came the reservation. Given below is an interview Ilavarasan gave to KAVIN MALAR and was published in the Tamil edition of India Today magazine. What about if he had been lying on or close to the track? Thirdly, Divya and her behavior became so erratic because of vanniyar politicians, members and lawyers brainstormed and perplexed her with fear and scare mongering. The letter was addressed to his wife N Divya, a Vanniyar girl, who had left him under pressure from community leaders. Then when and where did these marks appear from? Kumar has since deposed before the Justice S.R. More than death, I believe honor killing, the so called caste hindus killing their own daughter or sons is common. Our great Dr.B.R.Ambedkar, the Father of Modern India and Constitution, realized, how to resolve this poverty, illiteracy and inequality, so huge a problem that has no solution and none in the foreseeable future, realized that, there is only way one can bring up the Oppressed, exploited and abused group in a country, by making a mandatory and legal representation of opportunities (in America, they call this as "Affirmitive Action). And, that is my friend will not be good for India, when the society become equal in every sense, then one can dismantle this policy, until then no on can touch this great policy. The amount of alcohol in the brain according to the viscera report was 81 mg (per 100 ml of blood). The Tamil Nadu police claimed that Ilavarasan, who had been forcibly separated from Divya, had killed himself by coming under the Coimbatore–Kurla Express (train no.11014) at 1:20 pm on July 4, 2013, near the Dharmpuri railway station. The news of the caste killing of Pranay in Telangana has sent shockwaves throughout India. It is something that has been plaguing India. The unrest was sparked with the eloping of 20 year-old Divya, a Vanniyar from Sellankottai village, with 19 year-old E. Ilavarasan, a Dalit from the neighbouring Natham colony. Everyone must be given an equal opportunity to study and EVERYONE must be imparted basic knowledge and probably even technical education. Infact, vanniyars are not an upper caste, but according hindu pathology of castes, vanniyars are shudras, the lower castes. All this happened because two people loved each other. He has now been deputed to the Central Bureau of Investigation in Delhi. So, please be mindful that not all love marriages end of in death and that is not true. Constructed sketch by Dr Sampath Kumar of one possible position of the train hitting Ilavarasan but not corroborated with the nature of his injuries. Its recommendations could potentially breathe life into a case that has gone cold, especially in the wake of the Madras high court endorsing the police claim that the Dalit youth had committed suicide. “I have to see the documents which are in the CB file and all the reports which have been given by the doctors. If the family has any other doubts, they can search legal remedies.”, “All these things have already been covered in the investigation. When Ilavarasan saw Divya in the court on the first of July, Divya told the court that she would live with Ilavarasan after convincing her mother. The entire town where the LOWER caste boy lived burned. Ilavarasan, a Dalit youth from Dharmapuri married Divya, who belongs to some other caste. A case was filed in the Madras High Court demanding the nullification of the marriage because it was not legal and also sighting the fact that the boy mesmerized the girl unlawfully and married her for monetary gains. And it makes me evens sad that they are happy now and not punished. But at what cost are we endorsing equality? CLICK THE LINK BELOW FOR LATEST NEWS UPDATEShttp://puthiyathalaimurai.tv/ What followed next was a series of cinematic events that cascaded to the death of the boy ‘Ilavarasan’ today (04.07.2013). There is every scientific proof that it is not a railway accident. My anger on those people in Dharmapuri who are such fools. In a secular democracy like India, it is surprising we do not have a legislation to prohibit the formation of political parties based on religion and caste. This translation is by PRAKASH VENKATESAN. There were no grease marks on the Dalit youth's chest when two teams of doctors examined him, how did they appear later? Yes, there were many. And that is the presence of grease marks which they have reported “on the front of chest on both side, ventral and medical aspect of left hand and on the left middle finger on the dorsal aspect.” We have pictures taken by the first doctor (Dr. K. Thunder Chief, assistant professor, department of forensic medicine, Government Medical College Dharmapuri) who conducted the first post-mortem on Ilavarasan on July 5. Yes, Indian society has been improving constantly and striving towards equality. But NO, I cannot ever accept RESERVATION in employment. I have met Justice Singaravelu and deposed before the honourable judge, who heard me in depth and recorded my statement. With the impact of a train hit, he would have been thrown/rolled over the culvert, his shirt would have dirt marks. Who knows? The same police that is going on arresting dalits and dalit leaders and lawyers for no legitimate reason have never properly investigated, interrogated and punished the killers and criminals, how is that for a reality?. With over 26 years of experience behind him, Kumar has dealt with a number of sensitive cases over the course of his career – such as the recent murder of Salem’s Gokulraj (a Dalit who was murdered in June 2015 his relationship with a woman of the Gounder community), the death of three women students in a Villupuram college in January this year and the death of high court advocate R. Sankarasubbu’s son, Satish Kumar. What is going on is a constant effort to sabotage this reservation policy. The interview was conducted by DALIT CAMERA and sent to us by RAVICHANDRAN. quiet inter-caste marriage took place between Divya, a Vanniyar girl and Ilavarasan, a balit boy in October 2012, in Tamil Nadu. And finally in another hearing, Divya declared that she was never going to live with Ilavarasan again because she was hurt her father died because of her and also she was hurt that a violence broke out because of the marriage. Infact, I do not care or believe in castes, but for arguments and discussion, I had to mention the castes and there is no other way to explain. Explore more on Tamil Nadu. It all started after the village witnessed the worst caste violence in 2012, after a dalit youth E Ilavarasan married a vanniyar girl, Divya of the neighbouring hamlet. When a year ago, news came of the Vanniyar-Dalit inter-caste marriage of Divya and Ilavarasan, now known as the Dharmapuri couple, most observers wondered how … The BJP or the Jagran Manch are not responsible for this violent social and familial opposition. This was not the case. Part IISecondly, the calling death of Illavarsan as suicide is simply perplexing to me, a good and honest writer like yourself must think, is it a suicide?, who said? Chennai: “We have everything to show that the death of E. Ilavarasan, the Dalit youth who was found dead by a railway track in Dharmapuri, Tamil Nadu, four years ago, was not a suicide,” says Dr. Sampath Kumar, head of the forensic medicine department and vice-principal of the Sri Ramachandra Medical College and Research Institute in Chennai. The injury was clearly only on the left. In an exclusive interview to The Wire, the doctor said, “Even if we don’t have enough to prove that Ilavarasan was murdered, we have enough to show that he did not commit suicide.” Kumar also shared graphic pictures taken during three different examinations of the body and post-mortems by different doctors on different dates to prove his point. And finally in another hearing, Divya declared that she was never going to live with Ilavarasan again because she was hurt her father died because of her and also she was hurt that a violence broke out because of the marriage. Though that number of such survived marriage is limited compared to failed, divorced or disabled marriages, overall the reality is not what people think that love marriages end in death. I am not someone who believes they will face eternal suffering and hence, I believe in justice served here on earth. The father of the girl as soon as he heard that his daughter had married a boy from the gutters of the society, killed himself out of shame. In its latest order, based on the CB-CID investigation, the high court bench has cited only the AIIMS doctors as saying: “It is most likely that, since the deceased was under the influence of alcohol at the time of incidence (sic) and the ideation (sic) of committing suicide, sustaining injuries resulting into death could be possible due to accidental hitting by moving train. A couple of days back, we got the distressing news of the separation of two lovers, Ilavarasan and Divya, in Dharmapuri, Tamil Nadu, and ultimately the young Dalit man’s death. Now, one can ask about misuse, abuse and issues, yes, the implementation of reservation has some cracks and holes, no political party ever showed interest to fix them, similarly there are some so called upper castes abuse, for example, Part III, for example, the very Ramadoss the caste party leader who's party is been the center of this caste violence alleged to got a sc/st certificate to get medical degree....what better example you want about abuse of a great policy, regardless of all these minor issues, the reservation policy has been of great help to India's construction of a equal society.I am not here to find fault in anybody's writings, but a right perception and balanced view will go long way educating more people in the right direction, I hope you will accept this long comment, sorry I could not make it any shorter than this one.Thank you for educating people and making our India a better place, India needs many good youngsters like you.Because the Blogger does not allow more than 4000 characters, I had to split my comments into three parts...Hope the author and reader put up with it patiently and just read what is important.Thanks ~~Saint, the Upliftthem Blogger who exposed PMKs Atrocity, Dear Mr. SaintI sincerely thank you for the heart warming appreciations you have bestowed on my post.I agree to your first 2 facts and just to let you know that the same is what I believe.I am certain that all Love marriages does not end up in death. While Divya, whose husband Ilavarasan allegedly committed suicide … Divya’s lawyer, however, managed to make her tell the press that she is separated from Ilavarasan forever. A standing proof for that are my parents who married for love and are from 2 different castes. The picture taken by the AIIMS doctors on the day they conducted the re-postmortem shown by the police, clearly shows the grease marks had ‘appeared’ on the chest on July 13. Had he been sitting in front (across) of the train, his entire skull would have fractured with multiple injuries. Thereafter, two more experts – Dr. Sampath Kumar of Ramachandra Medical College, and Dr. K. Thangaraj of SRM University Kanchipuram, were called to re-examine Ilavarasan’s body and the scene of death. That is ruled out because, in that case, the whole skull would be fractured. Narrating the entire sequence of events, which began in November 2012 with the marriage of N Divya and Ilavarasan and culminated in the death of Ilavarasan … Asra Garg was the superintendent of police in Dharmapuri at the tine of Ilavarasan’s death and led the investigation into the incident. Divya and Ilavarasan were very intimate .... she left us because of compulsion- Illavarasam Mom [RED PIX] ... A must watch interview with comedian Ganja Karuppu- Red Pix 24x7 - … Fifth, the most important flaw I saw in your quite nicely written article is this, the last couple of paragraph where you talk about "Reservation", this is probably one of the most misunderstood or poorly understood by many Indians, I cannot blame you for what you thought about it, but my message can give some insights to you and others, so that you all can think bit deeply about it. Five doctors who examined the body did not see grease marks on the chest. All they got was nothing but tragedy that will haunt them for their lives. They also only showed me a photograph of his watch. PS: update in June 2018 - my views on reservation has radically changed in the past few years and I now believe that reservation based on caste was an attempt to overcome the prevailing inequality that was created because of caste in the first place. This was not a railway accident. They expected some opposition from Divya’s parents, but were totally unprepared for the reaction from all sides. Both are victims of casteism. Anything over 50mg can mean ‘under the influence of alcohol’. Actually, since I had forgotten what caste I am, I cannot categorically say whether am from the UPPER side or LOWER side. No matter what kind of government comes and goes, unless people are the change, change can never happen. Md. Both paid a heavy price for marrying Dalits. The party that is named after the name of the HIGHER caste provoked and instigated the violence further by giving blood enraging speech about how important caste is and how it is a crime to love another person from another caste. Further, some leaders from the caste based Political parties created animosity between the upper caste people and the Schedule caste people through their speeches, interview and writings. There is something seriously amiss in the AIIMS doctors’ report. News of acid attacks on young girls by jilted lovers in towns across the country also continue to pour in regularly. I apprciate the blogger for this article,if he s from upper caste. Having lived here in Canada for over an year, it is clear as to what equality can do. When we asked the railway police, they said they had handed it over to the local police. Then, I also saw Raanjhanaa. Slowly and very slowly as education spreads and enlightens the minds of several oblivious citizens, such incidents will have to be tolerated with a heavy heart. In Tamil Nadu in 2013 when Divya, a Vanniyar girl from a Most Backward Caste Divya married Ilavarasan, a Dalit boy it led to his death and in Vedaranyam another Vanniyar woman was lynched for her affair with a Dalit man. Will this suicide rampage stop with the 2 men? Climax. There would also have been injuries associated with the fall. If you want to know about them google it. Credit: Dr. Sampath Kumar. But this is highly subjective. The opinion may be corroborated with the circumstantial evidences (sic) of investigations.” Based on this, the bench concluded: “In view of the above, the stand taken by the petitioner [Ilavarasan’s father] that it is a case of murder and not suicide, appears to be not genuine.”, Excerpts from The Wire’s interview with Dr. Sampath Kumar. No matter which caste you belong, you made your effort to be honest and diligent in your story telling, you deserve to be appreciated the least, so bravo.However, there were few areas that has flawed or erroneous information that must be clarified both to the writer and to the readers. The anger in me can never be said in words. We did not find any injuries on the shoulders. But, what is true is in villages, most love marriages or intercaste marriages end up into dangerous dispute, clashes, violence and at times death. Fourth, Not a single person is convicted till today, not a single person, especially the vanniyar party PMK has been given a free ride throughout this rampage and after, what can be said of this lawlessness in Tamil Nadu, no one is considerate enough to talk about police atrocity, the fear they have been creating among the dalit victims, just week ago, they arrested 6 dalits, and whoever goes to the police station to inquire and plea for the release of the arrested are being arrested too and kept in police station, that is the level of freedom and democracy we have in Tamil Nadu. Divya's father Nagraj committed The CB-CID and the Madras high court have concluded it is suicide, mainly based on the AIIMS doctors’ postmortem report, emphasising the fact that Ilavarasan was under the influence of alcohol…. The Police clowns and thugs been on this case manipulating and destroying from the very beginning, and how can you expect a honest and truthful investigation, it is the police and state completely covered up a murder case, do we have enough evidence to prove murder, well not really, but it is not suicide, so one must be careful to call it, as there is so much politicking and muscle flexing is going on. Dalit youth E. ILAVARASAN, whose marriage to a Vanniyar girl had resulted in caste violence in Tamil Nadu last year, was found dead on a railway track yesterday. Clearly, Divya and Ilavarasan were not aware that the caste system could not be shrugged away. A four page letter to Divya by Ilavarasan Posted by meena at 23:37 - 1 comments A four page letter purportedly written by Dalit youth Ilavarasan in which he states that none should be held responsible for his death, has been recovered by the Special Investigation Team probing the case. The death of a person from a HIGHER caste because of a person from a LOWER caste, unleashed a hell. It is an infestation that corrupts and kills our economy. It is a matter of simple logic that had he been in that position by the side of the train, and the train was coming from the right side, which was the case, it is the right side of his head which would have gotten hit. Having said that, it is very important that populations eliminate the idea of caste from their thought process and avoid attaching it with their identities. Don't get me wrong. There were no primary or secondary injuries seen because of hitting the culvert or falling on the ground. Director Madhu Raj has created his story by combining elements from two major honour killing incidents that shocked Tamil Nadu and the country a few years ago. 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