Again Thanks a lot. I'm looking for suggestions or thoughts about what an effective swing would be for this type of body. Herman, Thank you so much Herman. It isnt as easy as that, of course. Youd never get rid of me. Place an alignment rod under your toes and make some swings. You can post now and register later. Funny thing was I used to have John Daly swing as a kid because I was skinny as a rail and now my swing looks like someone elses 1/2 or 3/4 swing. I have to focus more on being able to breathe at the top I feel the left lat stretching so hard lol I have to focus more on being able to breathe at the top I feel the left lat stretching so hard lol Imagine setting up for a 7-iron and then moving the golf ball 1 ball-width forward from there. I looked at this video and the gem of it is the left arm (tricep) on the left pectoral detail. When I considered that, I thought - maybe she's right! Thanks for the information on the setup. Plus you are more connected to the big muscles of trunk. Another thing I think I need to work on is stretching. [/quote] Your observations as a weight lifter are spot on. You mean a golfer exists with a bigger chest than me? How can low point of swing be in center of stance? My shoulder is 46cm width. As for the S&T, I learned a ton from that thread and have spent a lot of time reading it a couple of months ago. I don't care what guys say, the way they describe the pivot, with right side extension and left side tilting was brilliant for me. Any swing suggestions? DGA3, February 3, 2016 in Instruction & Academy. [quote name='sblack5' timestamp='1385096461' post='8188352'] From the top of the backswing Swing component: with your left arm across your chest, perform your body rotation towards the target in order to blast this left arm away from the chest. Slight wrist cock is normal at address. Get it wrong, and it wont matter how well you build everything else. You cannot paste images directly. . Good read to get some insight. I checked, and indeed running a club from my chest though my belt buckle has the head touching my left leg as you demonstrated. first of all my congratulations because your stuff is really good and has changed my game a lot. I tend to setup comfortably in an open stance with all clubs. [quote name='Hstead' timestamp='1386383819' post='8261327'] The tendency with the forward press is to struggle to align to the target and square the clubface in the setup. At this stage, we are ready to finish assembling the golf stance. Boomer was a legend in the teaching ranks in the first half of the last century, and his book, "On Learning Golf," published in 1946, can still be purchased. Quote Reply to this topic. So if you dont trust those, stay centered. Swing Faster And Stop Coming Over The Top Watch on Kyle Morris, named by Golf Digest as one of "America's Best Young Instructors" shows why the use of ones chest too much in the swing can lead to coming over the top and a lack of speed. Like this? Well youll be glad to know i can now strike a 3 iron pure like i never have in 20 years of playing. Follow NCG on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram and dont forget to subscribe to our YouTube channel for free online golf instruction, the latest equipment reviews, and much, much more. Wishon 5, 6 560 MC 7-PW MMC MB One question: when you stated should feel like your right arm scrapes your left hip coming down.you did mean right arm and not left correct? Once you have established the left hand grip, raise the left arm up on top of and across the chest (tricep lays on the pec.) 4) Hip speed will ruin your driver swing until youve had time to master your hands. Plenty of Youtube vids of both to check out. There's space between your chest and chin that I'm betting your left arm will fit in just fine -- but you have to add some "up" to your swing. I can relate to you on that one brother! There is NO SPECIFIC PATTERN for broad chested golfers. I am working on it though. If I put myself at the top of my swing with left hand in waiters tray position and a flat right wrist and just let my natural swing fall.I always arrive with an open club face. But, I have found something that that helps me make the coil easier. Gerry James, another long drive guy, was Mr. California. The real question is what are you looking for? I've got a large chest and big arms, right now 6'1" about 230lbs but I played football at 275lbs. 1. I was glad to see him win. Hybrids: Honma TW747 22* / 25* Thanks for following and commenting. [*][color=#b22222][b][size=4]TP Mills Trad II Hand Forged [/size][/b][/color] I am working on it though. Rock Flying Wings Golf Swing for Barrel Chested Guys like Howard 31Oct2014 RockBurke 848 subscribers Subscribe 5.8K views 8 years ago Show more Dalton McCrary 8 years ago New Thorbjrn. have been following your site for some time now and find your teaching illuminating and always interesting. Otherwise, I setup open and hit pull hooks or if I compensate with open stance a push/slice . Sometimes I feel like they are cocked and that I hit better. Herman. . When bowing toward the ball, do you retain wrist cock as when held at belt buckle height? At 285 and wearing a 54 long jacket, I struggle with a one plane move. The target is going to be 225lb again. Im a left handed golfer. Tips for chest/hip rotation : r/golf - Reddit So try to base your decision on your need for mobility, not so much on how wide your shoulders are. Subscribe: http://danwhittakergolf.com/subDWGWhat is the correct golf swing for your body type - Golf Swing Tips - DWGWe're now in the age of the quantitativ. Former European Tour and Ryder Cup player turned coach Peter Dawson has plenty of swing tips for senior golfers, including this gem, In his coaching companion, Now for the Back Nine, former European Tour and Ryder Cup player Peter Dawson has pieced together a series of easy-to-read, digestible coaching tips aimed at golfers of an advancing age. As far as the left arm I remember hearing "either go over or under". Hi Herman! If it is easy to turn etc.? In other words train your hands for impact first, and try to get to duck-hooking as soon as possible. If thats correct then having the handle point at belt buckle usually works out to be a good shaft/wrist angle. That's about what a skinny person's natural swing will be. Only you can judge if its worth that. These images compare the movement and position on the backswing and follow-through when you throw a golf ball, swing one-handed and then two-handed. I cant tell you how much you have changed my game! I like Smocks swing too. Today, I wish I lived in NC! When things are going really bad, I sometimes set up with my left hand in the two-knuckle position with the face open to get my swing back on plane. Thanks again for your amazing videos! Epic Fail. A couple of more ho ho's I should be 280 plus. Maybe that would help me not strike the ball behind me???? [quote name='sblack5' timestamp='1385087109' post='8187438'] Ben Hogan explains how to swing a golf club, in 41 seconds I hit about 500 balls a week but feel I bring a different swing every outing. XXIO X Series 5 Wood! Look on the bright side: at least you'll never have arm overrun. It's just that there are folks who advocate that the arms don't raise at all, that your hands go up by virtue of turning your shoulders on an incline, but this thought can be damaging to folks like you and me. Look no further than the Leaning Tower of Pisa in Italy for a perfect example. Left hand literally underneath the shaft with Palm up. You're likely a "Width" swinger, think Craig Stadler. Your email address will not be published. You are now in the proper golf address position with an athletic posture , basically a ready position that would apply to any sport. Regardless of stance width though the bottom of the swing arc will basically be the center of your stance, so for a ball played on the ground, center is easiest place to catch it solid and not try to time 13 different positions or stance widths. I turn my right hip just a little to the inside. The book is packed with plenty of easy-to-read, simple tips aimed at older golfersthough that doesnt mean younger players cant learn from it! Feel The Correct Body Turn in the Golf Swing - YouTube It looks like the guys on tour and even your sit up you almost let the club drop or even point your wrist down. I'm barrel chested and not overweight I setup like anyone else and swing the same as everyone I golf with. This classic tip is designed to create the sensation of a proper golf. The driver is defintely tougher to time everything. Shift your weight onto your front foot and begin to rotate your hips toward the target. Your left hand should move down your left pant leg toward your left knee as it works inward. r/golf - So I'm a big barrel chested guy, and almost every video I Otherwise, your on-line tutorials have been very helpful. Does it appear that way cause they are taller? I'm a short stocky guy , I'm not sure exactly what you mean. With golf I ALWAYS hit ground behind the ball. Thanks Jean. Here's how I recommend you getting the feel of this all-important connection: Put a credit card or golf glove under the left arm at set up. There will definitely be a learning curve involved to get comfortable again and time everything. Herman. I told Dan my first trip "I want to swing like Smock" lol. Once the grip is established, make sure the lead arm (left arm for right-handed golfers) is sitting on top of the chest. Thanks so much for your great instruction.John,former P.G.A, Thanks John. Being Gumby isn't all its cracked up to be. Right hand shows 2.5-3 knuckles. Keep the left arm straight and across the chest as you slowly lower the arm until the butt of the club is straight out from your belt buckle, shaft horizontal to the ground, toe of club pointed straight up. Place yourself in a balanced, athletic position, with the ball in the centre of the club face. Exo #7. You cannot paste images directly. Duly noted Ill try to get some specifics soon on driving. I have a broad chest as well and lack proper external right shoulder rotation - you can either go 'up' toward the anterior like some have described, or you can stay in depth (and some width) with low hands and reverse loop a fade out of it. The Tower is tilted 10 degrees (thats 17 feet off center at the top) and has been essentially unusable for most of its existence. There are some key points to keep in mind for the setup to ensure an inside approach with a level to upward hit. Body Turn in Golf Swing - The Golf Fix. Michael Michael Breed teaches you a drill for a better body turn in your golf swing. Until you lose it. What I now realize is that turning my left arm to the two-knuckle grip position naturally gets my left arm on top of the pec and helps tuck the right should in as well, freeing up my back-swing. You can also let me know that Im overanalyizing this setup and that I should get a life and I will completely understand. I love almost all your vdeos but in this one Once you have established the left hand grip, raise the left arm up on top of and across the chest (tricep lays on the pec.) I'm not learned enough to explain the three-barrel part but was a lurking member years ago there, and it was certainly an information-packed place. 75K views 10 years ago Golf Swing Tips and Drills A great exercise to feel the correct body turn in the golf swing. Cross your hands over your chest so your opposite hands touch opposite shoulders. I just never made the connection. ENTER NOW! Since I have a very thick chest with this setup for me everything is easier. Swing suggestions for my unusual body type . . . - Instruction Then as the club is swung down the chest should be pointing again pretty much straight forward. See What Members Are Saying! Learn how your comment data is processed. I'm a golf fan. Maybe we can get her to chime in? Thanks! 2 & 4 iron: Callaway X Utility 18* & 24* w/ Project X Pxi 6.0 Look at my release article and video and go for a neutral grip and really train hard at getting your right forearm and hand to turn down and over through impact. who have a similar problem - maybe even somebody who has a video I could watch. One advantage is normally you can generate quite a bit of power with a short swing. Doesnt left arm define swing circle? In order to look more conventional youre probably going to endure some pain along the way to reverse those habits. : This has been a struggle. The clubhead will lower to the ground directly in the center of your stance, butt of club still pointed at belt buckle. Ping G430 Max 10.5 Fujikura Ventus Velocore Blue 6X Basically, it's a three-step process, Hogan says. Mizuno S18 5310+5812/PX 6.0 Assume your address position without a club or ball. In 5 lessons Ben Hogan says that for a 5 iron the stance should be set apart with shoulder width. But for the purposes of this article, were going to gloss over grip, assuming you have the details of hand position already figured out. Basically we create the setup while standing a few inches too far away from the ball, then slide the clubhead up behind the ball as the feet take a small step forward. It's hard to do it through writing a reply. 5-PW: Callaway X Forged '13 w/ Project X Pxi 6.0 The mirror can really be informative. As for setup changes, I find that I play better with my feet pointed more right of my target but my shoulders parallel left. Then repeat it with your eyes shut and try to imagine you are swinging a golf club. This gives me something to review and refresh. If you have any suggestions to help my setup, particularly the hip issue, Id appreciate it. As you land inhale (breath in) and absorb the weight into your heels before you jump again. Next, attach the right hand to the club. Get that left arm up high and across the chest and actually try to maintain a slightly closed appearance with the upper chest and shoulders relative to the feet. I know you reccomend in this video that the clubface be centered in your stance at address, but could you speak a bit about that forward shaft lean at address and whether that is something you advocate. Rock Flying Wings Golf Swing for Barrel Chested Guys like Howard Herman. Alternatively, keep your toes pressed against the tops of your shoes as you make some half swings with a wedge. This set up video is awesome. People often try to tell me that golf isnt a natural game. Keep your balance throughout your swing, aiming for the middle of the club face more often. How to modify the swing, without lag it's just a shove. I have lost significant distance, consistency and golf balls trying to get flatter and deeper. You should be on the Golf Channel and writing for Golf Digest. Herman. I Just wanted to say hello and like the way you teach. Ironically, if I need to hit a high shot (say over a tree), I seem to make some of my best swings (I imagine it has to do with my setup and the need to get the ball up rather quickly). Callaway Rogue ST Max 18* Tensei 75S, PXG 0211 XCOR2 5-GW The preshot routine will help consistently apply the setup to shots with both irons and woods while aiming correctly at targets on the range or the golf course. There are a few reasons this might be happening. [*][size=4][b][color=#daa520]Callaway MD5 45,49,54,58/[/color] I've been playing golf about 15 years and have been as low as an 8 handicap, but currently rest at 13. Always need good footwork and posture. I've been playing golf about 15 years and have been as low as an 8 handicap, but currently rest at 13. Thanks for the suggestions, so far. You can read our review of the book in our rundown of the best golf instruction books, or head to the Now for the Back Nine website if you need more information or want to buy a copy. Your description of how to fix your setup was perfect. Wishon 775HS 22*, 25* Anyway, went to the range today and just using your set up methods had me hitting the ball better than I have in years. I pretty much have the same width thru the bag and then get just slightly wider for driver. The left arm technique is huge. Thanks for commenting. Thanks for commenting Wayne. I had some issues and knew something didnt feel right in set up. The thing I noticed about this setup was the left elbow pointed down towards my left hip as opposed to my more traditional setup where the left elbow points out between the left hip and target. What's my problem? What makes it easy on the back? [/quote] Also, the left arm over the chest and the lower shoulder helps align the shoulders with the lower body. I'm going to have to get one! In this first of his swing tips for senior golfers taken from the book, Peter explains why its important to simplify the golf swing. Watch the 2nd video starting at the 2:00 mark, no forcibly twisting of the lower spine. Boy, that really seems to free me up, am I headed for a wreck? I told Dan my first trip "I want to swing like Smock" lol. Lol. Good luck and thanks for stopping by and commenting. Blending forearm and chest rotation on the backswing I can carry it about 210, even my 5 iron which i rarely used on the coruse because of lack of distance i now know i can hit very well.I think the 70s are in my future, just need to hit better iron shots on the course, at the range i kill thembut something changes on course as we all know. [/quote] The T-square approach is simpler for a wide range of players. Brian Smock has a great swing and has a thick chest. (Im left handed). I like that thinking mans golf coach. Ive always felt like you deserve to know why you are doing something beyond the standard reason my pro told me too. Its a lot easier to stay committed when you completely understand where youre coming from and where youre trying to go. If it was Now for the Back Nine would be a very short book. Just making sure. So if you want to fight through to a more conventional swing, your first goal has to be a solid grip and a solid release action. I don't know if this is helpful as I shy away from physical swing advice however being 6'2"/225 with a 49" chest/51 jacket, which is always a PITA as the stuff usually comes in even sizes, however My chest never stopped me from gettin it back-, I was extremely flexible my last year(2012) in the game as I was actively still playing hoops and I was Natiional Ski Patrol-, The only "key" that I ever thought of, and that was decades ago as my body and swing was the same from college on and that is my left tricep across my pec going back-, You might look at some single plane stuff and I've posted a vid of Hal's swing and while he's taller than you, he's got the barrel chest-, I got to Play with him in 2010 and '12 and along with bein a super guy(I started likin him when he scoffed at the Tour boi Tiger love and scoffed at Tiger and beat him when few others could), he's still got a sweet swing-, And he's proud of that belly, tellin me in that Texas draw, "I earned this some b****," lmao, The best to ya and have a great season :), In the end, only three things matter~

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GHIN: Beefeater 24. Herman. I also used to waggle my hips forward and back slightly before setting my weight to the back foot and beginning my take-away. But it should be said that I spend a lot of time each day stretching. Stay in touch. I got down to 215lbs about ten years ago and I looked like I had AIDS, wearing 36" jeans. Hey Herman, http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/topic/881764-latest-swing-changes-post-jacksonville-updated-10-29-13/. I like Smocks swing too. Herman, Thanks a million. GIVEAWAY! Is it possible also have some videos talking about chipping & pitching? Good questions, best of luck on your game. By Been lucky to have played most of this winter. I think it is also harder to keep your arms in front of you.

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