Knox added that Gilbert would remain the starter for the rest of the season. I always enjoyed watching Krieg. I have actually walked on the campus of MILTON, not Ripon college, as well as Alma College in Michigan when my late father suggested that, just to be sure, should also look at small colleges not just the big land grant State schools. Although he missed seven games with a separated shoulder, his excellent play helped propel the Seahawks to their first AFC West Division Championship. At that point, head coach Chuck Knox named Krieg the Seahawks' new starting quarterback. Dave Krieg. In reply to I liked DeBerg, he had by Noahrk. [21] Nevertheless, Krieg's strong regular season showing earned him another Pro Bowl appearance. That's not the sort of thing a team does when it is completely satisfied with its starting quarterback. Krieg is now a motivational speaker and businessman who sometimes returns to Seattle for "legends of yesteryear"-type events. Broadcasters and columnists alike loved to tell the story of the seventh-stringer from tiny Milton College. But Patera did release Sam McCullum, a productive veteran receiver who also happened to be the Seahawks' union rep. Legal actions ensued. Then Krieg got benched in favor of Gilbert in the fourth quarter of the same game. NFL Scouting Combine becomes a hands game - Chicago Sun Yep. Legendary fumbling quarterback Dave Krieg third on the all-time list with 153 was rumored to have teeny hands. The Seahawks went 9-7 but missed the playoffs. Zorn's playing career fizzled out soon after Krieg took his job. that season, because of Kreig. Milton College closed in 1982, while Krieg was still dueling with Zorn. Many years later, Lions tackle Lomas Brown admitted that he got "gator arms" on the guy he was blocking because he was wanted Mitchell out of the game. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. [18] That December, Krieg was named AFC Player of the Month. Players shook hands with opponents as a sign of union solidarity before preseason games in 1982, and the usual suspects reacted as if they were burning puppies cradling bibles wrapped in flags. Undrafted in 1980, Krieg tried out for the Seahawks and caught on as a third-string quarterback. Moreover, Krieg's leadership rallied the Lions to a 5-2 regular season finish and a wild card playoff berth. "Stouffer has been impressive, very impressive," Knox said, even though Stouffer completed just 20 total passes and threw zero touchdowns in his two starts. If you or someone you know has a gambling problem, help is available. Dave Krieg | American Football Database | Fandom Krieg finished in the top 10 in DVOA five times during his neverending career, yet he always seemed to be just one slump away from a seat on the bench. Does being in the top half of the league in DVOA make Kreig a top-5 all time Bears QB? [7], By the middle of the 1981 season, Krieg overtook Sam Adkins on the depth chart to become the Seahawks' second-string quarterback. [13], Returning to the bench at the outset of the 1983 campaign, Krieg remained there until Zorn's performance faltered in midseason. Dave Krieg. WebHad some really good moments with Krieg.But he gets my vote for the All time NFL Quarterbacks with the most Balls slipped out of his hands( i swear he must have some But Dan McGwire (brother of Mark)was somehow worse. After hovering around .500 forever for Knox and playing for Schottenheimer and Ryan, Krieg was destined to end up with Fisher. Krieg said Patera wouldn't allow players to drink water during 90-degree training camp two-a-days, which wasn't that unusual back then. Oh, and he has the smallest hands among all current NFL starting quarterbacks. 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But he barely played in Tennessee and retired after the 1988 season. [31] Statistically, Krieg's performance was inconsistent: his passer rating ranged from subpar (4 games below 60) to mediocre (2 games in the 60s) to good (3 games in the 80s and 90s) to outstanding (3 games over 100). And he's going to be the man 'till something else happens. And if he's down, he bounces right back. They are always starting for a 6-10 team, and fumbling twice per game. Nicknamed "Mudbone" by his Seattle teammates,[17] Krieg led the Seahawks on five-game winning streak to finish the season, during which his passer rating exceeded 126. Could Stetson Bennett Be the Next Brock Purdy? Hand size is more of a fun trivia fact than anything that says a quarterback will fail in the big leagues. See Photos. BackCAST 2023: Is Zach Charbonnet Overrated? He threw three touchdowns, two of them to Largent, in a blowout victory over the Browns in the season finale. Sports betting and gambling are not legal in all locations. .or just me??? Packers defender Sean Jones said after the game that he was wary of Krieg coming off the bench. In relief, Krieg threw just one pass, a 23-yard touchdown. He went 1-of-8 for 2 yards, three sacks, and one interception in the first half of a Week 8 against the Steelers, who were without Jack Lambert on defense and Terry Bradshaw on offense. When David went up to the bar to order a drink, he noticed a guy wearing a flannel jacket, sitting by himself at the bar, nursing a drink. Ryan Fitzpatrick with Buffalo in2011 kind of fits that mold, but Ryan Fitzpatrick has his own unique layers to his story. His final completion was to Mike Archie, done in the final quarter. [42], Krieg is now a motivational speaker and real estate investor in Phoenix, Arizona. The Chiefs lost 30-13. See Photos. I remember when 44 year old Deberg started a game for the 1998 Falcons (one of their 2 losses that season). Patera was the oldest of the old school: a 1950s linebacker who managed the Purple People Eaters as the Vikings' defensive line coach. You would think that that wouldve precluded Brady from throwing 624 touchdowns and winning seven Super Bowls somewhere along the way. WebInterestingly, his span is a whopping 17.6% wider than Anthony Davis' despite being nine inches shorter. Statistically, the 1994 season was the best of Krieg's career: Krieg completed 61.8% of his passes and threw 14 touchdowns versus only 3 interceptions, for a passer rating of 101.7. (The two papers merged after the 1992 Pittsburgh newspaper strike.) 1,579,967: 29. Krieg had four seasons with more than 3,000 yards passing and led the Seahawks to the playoffs four times. Krieg's burden grew heavier in 1990, with the retirement of Largent and the continued decline of the offensive line and the running game. He backed up Montana in San Francisco, Elway in Denver, Young in Tampa, and Marino in Miami. Does anyone else remember the Cortez Kennedy commercial? Dave Krieg Career Stats | NFL.com He also died in 2018. "Rodney Dangerfield Gets More Respect Than Seattle's Krieg" was the headline of the profile I just cited. Although the Seahawks managed only a 79 record, Krieg played well enough to earn a return trip to the Pro Bowl, where he performed impressively, helping lead the AFC to victory.[23]. Dave is proud to be a board His own coaches, however, were another matter. After breaking his thumb in the season opener, Krieg missed six games in 1991. It was the forerunner toManning-Leaf. Pickett, of course, need not fear that his smaller-than-usual NFL phalanges will betray him at the next level. Coming from a small college, I didn't feel like I had any resources to fall back to for help outside of football. Krieg would have another weak game, throwing an interception and fumbling in his own end zone in a 34-7 loss to the Bengals. I remember reading in the Super Bowl 16 program (the first Super Bowl program my father bought for me as a kid; the 1981 season was also the first NFL season I followed closely), which always includes a season in review section on a week by week basis, that after the Seahawks won their second meeting with the Jets in the 1981 season that of their 34 wins in franchise history up to that point, 6 of them were against the Jets. That makes a difference," said Meyer, who had suggested years earlier that a big-league arm doesn't make much difference. WebFor many years Krieg held the NFL record for most career fumbles, a result of both a lengthy career at quarterback and unusually small hands for the position. Bizarrely, Seattle (6-10 in 1981) handed the 10-5-1 Jets their only two losses of the 1981 season after New York's 0-3 start. Went to the now-defunct Milton College. Zorn played adequately to start the season, then slowly fell off a cliff. All-Pro Steve Largent missed several games because of a fractured elbow. And Krieg is better than Zorn has ever been in the past.". [28] Although Krieg had set Detroit Lions regular-season records for fewest passes intercepted (3) and highest passer rating (101.7), the team decided to stick with Mitchell and let Krieg become a free agent. There are plenty of starting quarterback examples, who also had small hand measurements at the Combine, that we can point to and say this wont matter in determining his future. In reply to Kreig- Fantasy football winner! Another high first-rounder (who was at least good in college) McGwire managed 3 INTs and 3 sacks (0 TDs) in his only start of the season. Tony Romo was uniformly terrific. The union demanded free agency, rookies held out, and the league nearly cannibalized itself. Dave Krieg. "John Elway is a fellow who can really drill the ball Dave's arm probably isn't as strong but he gets the ball there and he's right on target, and that's the most important thing, isn't it?". Krieg posted a career of 98-77. Cross Ryan Fitzpatrick with Tony Romo and you might just end up with Dave Krieg. If Dave Krieg hadn't interfered in 1992, DeBerg would have been replaced by Montana a second time, this time with the Chiefs,in 1993. Legends of DVOA: Dave Krieg | Football Outsiders The Seahawks finished 7-9 in 1991, and everyone, including new owner Ken Behring, finally grew tired of having the same mediocre season with the same old-school coach and three quarterbacks over and over again. But the career leader in quarterback fumbles is none other than Hall of Famer Brett Favre, with 166. How he not only went 6th overall, but had the audacity to hold out and force a trade (and it worked! I want to hammer home how ridiculous this sentiment is. Stouffer stepped in and led the Seahawks to a pair of wins, mostly by handing off to Warner and John L. Williams. ", We have come to the 1987 players strike. ', and I said, 'I guess I do now.'". In reply to I remember Kelly Stouffer as by Joey-Harringto. Lefty passers! Kemp relieved Krieg in the fourth quarter and nearly led the Seahawks on a scoring drive in the final 71 seconds. Largent, who retired as the NFL's all-time leading receiver, represented his native Oklahoma in Congress for eight years. Stroud Falls to Colts in GTM's Final Mock Draft, Aaron Rodgers and the Jets: Low Floor, Low Ceiling, QBASE 2023: Why Bryce Young Tops C.J. He attended Milton College in his home state of Wisconsin and made the Seattle Seahawks as an undrafted free agent. "You really don't like to play musical chairs with your quarterbacks at this point in the season but it's something we feel we have to do," Knox said. The Kansas City Chiefs sacked Krieg 9 times, including an NFL-record 7 sacks by linebacker Derrick Thomas. "People talk about the arm strength of quarterbacks," said Seahawks quarterback coach Ken Meyer in a Krieg profile during the 1984 playoffs. Stouffer replaced Krieg after a three-interception meltdown, just as the Seahawks were about to face the Bill Parcells-Bill Belichick-Lawrence Taylor Giants. Truly one of the most miserably bad games of all time. In reply to "The Unholy Trinity" as I've by Joe Pancake. Romo, on the other hand, was flashier and more gifted than Krieg. Krieg has now been surpassed by both Brett Favre and Warren Moon for career fumbles. The Day Kansas City Drafted Patrick Mahomes, Aidan O'Connell, Tanner McKee, and the Day 3 QBs, Jaxon Smith-Njigba Highlights Deep Class of WRs, Most Undervalued Players in a 2023 Fantasy Football Draft, Colts Take Will Levis in Latest Mock Draft. Nice to see DVOA back up these intuitions. I think DeBerg, who had been an assistant coach with the Giants for a couple years between 1994 and 1997, was signed by the Falcons because their top two quarterbacks went down and he had a long-time relationship with Falcons head coach Dan Reeves: *DeBerg drafted by the Cowboys in the 10th round in 1977 though cut before the season; Reeves was a Cowboys assistant coach at the time under Tom Landry. I looked it up, in 1993 after 7-2 Miami lost Marino for the season and Scott Mitchell went down, they signed DeBerg, then 39, off-the-street and put him as their starter. On a team with a moron GM. In reply to I remember when 44 year old by vrao81. I called home and complained, my Dad said, yeah, we don't watch the games, it's too depressing so we just set up the VCR and send you the tapes. Krieg's leadership helped the Seahawks compile a respectable 97 record in 1990, but they again missed the playoffs. Rising to the occasion, Krieg threw for 3,671 yards and 32 touchdowns, leading his team to a 12-4 record and another wild card playoff appearance. Gannett may earn revenue from sports betting operators for audience referrals to betting services. Dave Krieg Exclusive Premium Content For Subscribers. Zorn, meanwhile, was getting into hot water with Patera, possibly for criticizing the offensive line, possibly for visibly supporting the NFL Players Association in the weeks leading up to a work stoppage. Knox returned to coach the Rams for three awful years before retiring. What was Dave Krieg hand size? Promisekit.org It's a matter of doing what's right (for the team). Rhome told the press that Krieg "had nothing but a rifle for an arm" when the Seahawks decided to keep him, but he had since learned the position. Yes, that one season was pretty extraordinary, but he's going to have to wait for Mike to write a series of "One Hit Wonders" articles. This year that backwards discussion is centered around former Pittsburgh signal-caller, Kenny Pickett. See Photos. Curt Warner purchased an auto dealership in Vancouver. He was quite possibly the greatest "trick-or-treat" QB in NFL history. Seattle General Manager Tom Flores decided to retain Stouffer and McGwire, and to let Krieg become a free agent. With Seattle he was 70-49, Krieg also had six seasons where he lead his team to the playoffs and posted a playoff record of 3-6. WebThe official source for NFL news, video highlights, fantasy football, game-day coverage, schedules, stats, scores and more. *DeBerg goes into coaching and becomes the Giants quarterbacks coach in 1995-1996; Reeves was the Giants' head coach and hired DeBerg. I swear, I'm going to be accused of being a secret Cowboys fan, but I'm going to tout Romo again. Ranking every NFL team's 2023 draft class from 32 (sorry, 49ers) to 1 (whoa, Colts), 13 Winners (Bill Belichick!) Even when the young starter played poorly,[33] coach Jeff Fisher declined to insert Krieg. "He's got a big-league arm. Lol. Consistently inconsistent. SackSEER 2023: Is Tyree Wilson Overrated? See Photos. Meanwhile, in St. Louis, former Colorado State quarterback Kelly Stouffer held out for a full year after the Cardinals selected him sixth overall in the 1987 draft. We come to the Golden Example. Krieg by then 38 years old came off the bench and helped rally an injury-wracked Bears team to a respectable 66 finish. Kelly Stouffer is a college football television analyst. However, on the last play of the game, as time expired, Thomas closed in for yet another apparent sack, but Krieg eluded the linebacker and threw a 25-yard touchdown pass to wide receiver Paul Skansi for the win. Despite going undrafted in the 1980 NFL Draft, he has consistently demonstrated remarkable talent as a quarterback throughout his career. Warner's backups were burly all-purpose backs Dan Doornink and David Hughes, plus kick returner Eric Lane and, incongruously, a well-beyond-the-hill Franco Harris. They were so bad I couldn't even win with them on Madden. The Lions went 5-2 down the stretch. Patera's attitude toward unions was predictable. One footnote: Gale Gilbert has one other distinction other than being awful - being on the roster for five straight Super Bowl losses. We should ask Bears legend Russell Wilson. See Photos. But he has been the frontman for one of the NFLs more successful teams of late, and he does bring consistency to the table. He finished fifth in passing DVOA behind Dan Fouts, Marino, Joe Montana, and Joe Theismann. Legendary However, the 10-6 Seahawks failed to qualify for the playoffs. He also earned the "Ground Chuck" nickname: his Rams finished first or second in the NFL in rushing attempts four times, and his Bills finished second in 1980 and fourth in 1982. Dave Krieg. To their credit, Knox and Meyer turned back to Krieg as soon as he was healthy. You can get it at Amazon or read it for free as an FO+ subscriber! Kried to Largent was a thing for several years. Perhaps due to this increased competition, Krieg's consistency increased further in 1988. So Knox built an offense out of deep strikes to Largent and Turner, touch passes to Largent, and lots of swing passes to fullback types. The Dolphins unfortunately wouldn't win another game, although the defense -par for the course- was more to blame for that than DeBerg or Mitchell, who came back to start the last couple of games. Or Steve DeBerg. 22 Nov 2022 22:39:58 Mitchell was terrible, completing just 48.4% of his passes. Krieg's streaks, slumps, hoary feel-good story and late-career travels prompt comparisons to Fitzpatrick. That season, Seattle had a Sunday Night and Monday Night game in back to back weeks, both of which Stouffer started. Krieg finished eighth in DYAR despite only playing half a season. Considering retirement after I was informed the football will be slipping out of my tiny hands. "Jim Zorn's the No. "He picks out secondary and tertiary receivers. WebIts true that he once led the NFL in fumbles due to his small hands. He always seems to have a big play ready. Does anyone else remember Dave Krieg? | Seahawks (Chiefs safety Deron Cherry intercepted four of the passes). Get info about his position, age, height, weight, college, draft, and more on Pro-football-reference.com. Dave Krieg Web Page Dave Krieg They somehow (read:Cortez Kennedy) won two games, one of which was against the 1-15 Patriots, so the Pats got local heroDrew Bledsoe #1 in the draftand the Seahawks got Rick Mirer at #2. Raiders in the American Football Conference Championship Game. Krieg backed up Zorn and Sam Adkins as an undrafted rookie. Use promo code, C.J. In his second season as a starter, less than a year after he tore his ACL, Joe Burrow threw 34 touchdowns, won three playoff games and took the Bengals to their first Super Bowl in over three decades.

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