In their interactions with adult anthropoids, the Transformer characters seem between twice and three times their height. As with Transformers Universe MUX, the text of Transformers Wiki is available under the Creative Commons License. Though jets are much larger than cars, they're drawn the same height so the battles appear fair (and also to make it easier to animate; blocking a shot where characters differ radically in height is difficult). Sizes Source: https://www.deviantart.com/hexalys/art/Transformers-Prime-Height-Chart-527803474 Devastator's size is particularly confusing. Additionally, Fortress Maximus's main adversary Scorponok is considerably smaller as a toy. I recall reading years ago that Bayverse Optimus stood at somewhere between 28' - 32' tall, and that Bayverse Megatron stood supposedly at 35' feet tall (according to magazine articles and TFWiki). shrunk steadily in subsequent issues until he was not much taller than the average Transformer. Much less common are instances of a Transformer turning into an overscaled real-world object. Non-show characters such as Spinister used other media, namely IDW Publishing. A single Transformer's size is rarely consistent between artists. Height Chart | Transformers Prime RP - ProBoards Transformers Legends even acknowledges this by having Broadside becoming a gigantic Headmaster large enough to fight level with Grand Scourge, and piloting a larger Transtector who seems to be on a similar scale to most versions of Metroplex. A Blast Off (Space Shuttle) toy in scale with the Alternators toys would be 1.6 meters (5.1 feet) long, while a Broadside (aircraft carrier) toy at that scale would be over 12 meters (40 feet)! In recent years, Hasbro has actually started using the term "scale" in the context of their Transformers toys more frequently. The new scale for the driver figures continued with Dark of the Moon, which introduced Scout-sized robot figures that had one-man vehicle modes in a slightly larger scale, resulting in undersized drivers riding oversized motorcycles. The Combaticons are wildly out of scale to each otherBlast Off's Space Shuttle mode should dwarf Swindle, with the others somewhere in between. most news articles say prime is 50ft tall, also interesting is that if you saw rotf in IMAX, the forest scene is in proper scale it would be in real life. Though they were sometimes ignored, they still give insight into the official scale of characters in Generation 1. The final line in the trilogy, Kingdom introduced Beast Wars characters into the mix, which hoooo boy. For example, Cosmos is much shorter than Blaster in robot form; yet Blaster easily fits within his spacecraft mode. For example, the original Air Raid transforms into an F-15 Eagle, but his toy is half the size of the original Starscream's. However, the presence ofTransformerson Earth is not generally known among the civilian population. The reintroduction of the Prime Wars Trilogy Legends Class (under the name "Core Class") is another barrel of monkeys, with the majority of them being smaller takes of "G1" characters based on larger toys, which only scale amongst their own. Scale charts - Transformers Wiki Assuming that Unicron is generously close to the size of our moon, when compared to other stellar bodies he shows up as an all-but-invisible speck. A rare exception is live-action Blackout, who came with a tiny (and correctly scaled) version of Scorponok. A to-scale Starscream in robot mode could kick Bumblebee around like a soccer ball. In the video game Transformers: Fall of Cybertron, Bruticus towers at least ten times as tall as any Protectobot, crushing them under his feet. A much larger Deluxe version of Scorponok is also meant to interact with the same Blackout toy, despite the ridiculous scale disparity (and the fact that this means Blackout can have two Scorponoks of radically different size clipped to him simultaneously). It also creates issues since most incarnations of Headmasters are shown as interchangeable, suggesting that the toys are indeed meant to be about the same size, even if one is a car and the other is a dual-rotor copter. The movie universe characters aren't immune to scale issues, either; the Dinobots are way out of proportion compared to their real-life counterparts; such as Strafe (who is far too big for a Pteranodon compared to his allies), and Scorn (who isn't quite as problematic; though a real Spinosaurus had shorter legs, making his proportions more of an issue than actual scale). The fact that his outer shell was now much smaller than the inner robot was quietly ignored. This is also assuming Bumblebee's AOE height at 18 feet. Transformers Prime Scale Chart + Screenshots I made a comparison for all the characters in Prime so far and their scale/heights. Shatter and Dropkick were introduced as the first Triple Changers in the film franchise with two Earth-based vehicle forms (with Drift having a Cybertronian helicopter mode alongside his car mode). The Generation 1 Marvel comic is notorious for changing the relative sizes of various characters. Outstanding Individual Achievement in Animation -Kirk Van Wormer, storyboard art for "Nemesis Prime". If he's the size of a real truck, Prime in robot mode should be 810 m (25'30') tall, at best. The original Transformers fictions often depict characters to the same relative scale as the toys, which duplicates the intra-toyline problems described above. Transformers Prime Scale Chart | TFW2005 - The 2005 Boards Size of G1 Transformers vary between cartoon episodes or comics. The crucial point is that the toy lines were initially unrelated. Attached Files: 806e6f7egw1dz78roflhfj.jpg File size: 112 KB Views: 35,272 WheelWave140, Nov 25, 2012 #162 Guess Who the Mecannibals Are Having for Dinner? Roll out with all-new adventures starring Optimus Prime, Bumblebee, Arcee, and the rest of the heroic Autobots as they battle the evil Decepticons! These scale problems are necessary to avoid misproportioned gestalt forms. Even if one character's a twenty-metre fighter jet and the other's a five-metre pickup truck. Main article: List of Transformers: Prime Episodes. Hasbro actually displayed mock-ups for an unproduced line of "military" Transformers in scale with Alternators during the BotCon 2007 Hasbro Tour; two of them recycled parts of Armada Unicron, and were thus Supreme-sized, which made said potential toyline not particularly commercially viable for Hasbro. save. Artwork for the Star Wars subline features humans from another galaxy standing at the same height as Transformers, although this is simply because most of the figures in the tabletop game advertised by this artwork are the same size. Yet when Skywatch discovers Laserbeak at the end of the story, his head alone is suddenly the size of an adult human. The 2018 Studio Series line was the first to do so: Deluxe Bumblebee is shorter than Deluxe Ratchet, but taller than Deluxe Jazz, with Deluxe Lockdown being taller than all three. Likewise Dinobot is considerably larger than a real Velociraptor. In the case of the Headmaster figures, the Headmasters set a rather consistent scale to their toys, but one that raises a lot of questions. Shockwave was a member of the scientist caste in the industrial city of Kaon.In a reversal of the usual order, he was swayed by the ambitions of the former mining caste member turned gladiator Megatron.Serving as Megatron's "pet mad scientist" and second-in-command, he saw to the fighter's armament during his rise to prominence, all the while fantasizing on the prospect of mass . Qualities particularly celebrated include the cinematography, visuals and animation, voice acting (including the return ofPeter CullenandFrank Welkerto the roles of Optimus Prime and Megatron, something the actors themselves rejoiced over), and characterization. Starting with Beast Machines, many franchises have released multiple versions of the same character in different size classes, most often the leader characters. However, given that a working interior that can fit an entire to-scale humanoid would likely compromise a lot of the engineering, many figures designed with this play feature in mind have the driver be far too small in comparison to their vehicle. The characters should be in scale with each other as they all have real-world alternate modes that (should) pass for real vehicles. I personally think he is much taller than Optimus 2.0. It was often shown in full and would be cut for time in some episodes. It's not perfect but hey, what're you going to do? The vehicle modes were (supposedly) Cybertronian vehicles which also helped ignore vehicle-mode scale issues. (NOTE: unfinalized models, scale may not be final), A much larger, black and white version of the the Decepticon scale chart, Autobot scale chart from the film's DVD(NOTE: uses concept art, scale may not be final), Decepticon scale chart from the film's DVD(NOTE: uses concept art, scale may not be final), Scale for Devastator and Constructicons(NOTE: uses concept art, scale may not be final), Blackarachnia scale references for season 1, Scale chart from Transformers Animated: How to Draw, Scale chart page published in The AllSpark Almanac II, Optimus Prime and Bumblebee scale within the game, Omega Supreme next to Optimus Prime and Bumblebee within the game, Trypticon and Omega Supreme to scale within the game, Character model size comparison for Bumblebee, Omega Supreme and Trypticon, "Epic height" scale chart from Activision, https://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/index.php?title=Scale_charts&oldid=1685585. Although this was intended to show that the planet was technological in nature, it makes little sense, as the structures would have to be the size of small nations to be visible. Transformers fiction commonly shrinks or inflates characters, relative to their toy sizes. Animated departs from this, where Decepticons are sometimes depicted larger than the Autobots to emphasize the rookie nature of the team handling imposing and dangerous enemies. Notably, Chromedome, if his driver is meant to be about the size of a human, is a rather oversized car, while the issues of Fortress Maximus being way too small for a city are magnified. These scale issues are largely inherited by similar lines, such as the Brainmasters and Titan Masters. Some Transformers are smaller than solid blocks of the mass contained in their alt-modes: Unicron would have to be about as thick as the Earth's crust while in planetary form, and Optimus Prime would probably be blown away by a stiff breeze in his larger incarnations. Starscream's robot mode is nearly as wide as it is tall, with shorter, digitigrade legs, so the massive jet-former won't end up twice as tall as Optimus. Transformers Alternate Mode Chart (All Michael Bay Transformers and Bumblebee Movie) The Buzz 301K subscribers Subscribe 1.4M views 3 years ago #OptimusPrime #BumblebeeMovie #Transformers. Likewise, the Legends Class version of Revenge of the Fallen Arcee, a motorcycle, is more or less in scale with Deluxe-sized Autobots with car alternate modes. Considering our ancestors really were smaller than modern humans, this is not extremely wrong, but it deserves noting. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. With the Human Alliance assortment, Hasbro have taken a different approach by trying to keep the vehicles in scale (roughly 1:24) and adding accessories and other characters that turn into motorcycles for smaller cars such as Jazz, Skids and Mudflap. Of particular note, Wheeljack's Turbo Racer is based on a Ferrari Testarossa, and the Action Master Jackpot figure (a new character created specifically for the Action Masters lineup) sports kibble that indicates he once used to transform into a Ferrari Testarossa himself! The rather Coruscant-like shots of Cybertron in Beast Machines may be less distinctive or "Cybertronian", but are far more believable (some people reason that the Transformers' advanced technology, along with their large size and their not needing to breathe, means that buildings actually CAN be that big). His cab is 1/48 scale, but his trailer is closer in scale to the Autobot Cars, which fall more in the neighborhood of 1/35 to 1/40 scale-wise. And, sadly, the most show-accurate toy, Air Attack Optimus Primal, is a ginormous Supreme figure, towering over the other toys. Combaticon (G1) - Transformers Wiki Voyager Class, at US$20. Another interesting example is Lockdown. Even when toys with considerable size differences are sold in the same pack, combinations such as a Leader-sized Optimus Prime (which would be in scale with Deluxe-sized Autobots with car alternate modes) with the much smaller Legends Class versions of Bumblebee and Jazz or the large Ultimate Bumblebee toy with the much smaller Deluxe-sized toys of Scorponok (who should be roughly the same size as Bumblebee) and Brawl (who should be considerably larger than either of them) are fairly common. Fortress Maximus suffered a similar problem, shrinking in size even though he was explicitly rebuilt to be twice as tall as the average Transformer. Scout Class, at US$8. Broadside transforms from an Earth fighter jet of indeterminate model (let's pretend for the sake of argument that he's supposed to be an F-14 and say he's 18 meters (61 feet) long) into an entire aircraft carrier, approximately 333 meters (1,092 feet) long. He devastates things. Beast Wars likewise had an official scale guide, which appeared as a bonus on the DVD set of Season 2. By using information fromVector Sigmadownloaded to theKey, Jack restores Optimus's memory. Transformers, the toyline based on the 2007 live-action movie, retains many size classes from before: Legends Class, at US$4. Even so, it would take something along the lines of the grossly undersized depictions of Unicron (see below) to even begin to reasonably represent the colossal size of a transformed city. When fighting Bumblebee, there are a few quick frames that offer a nearly side by side comparison. Just go with it. Unfortunately, for practical reasons this limited the choice of altmodes. Notably, the GAU-8/A Avenger gatling cannon mounted to the front end of the A-10 Thunderbolt II (Powerglide's alternate mode) alone is about the same size as a Volkswagen Beetle (Bumblebee).[1]. Conversely, the traditionally stunted Bumblebee is marginally too tall and bulky to be in correct scale to his otherwise fairly accurate core teammates, assuming one includes Voyager Optimus and Leader Bulkhead in their lineup. Most such instances occur in the Beast Wars era. As Optimus retrieves theAllSpark, Autobots, Decepticons, and Predacons unite under Bumblebee and Predaking to face the Chaos Bringer in defense of their home. Other instances of multiple-size characters are more clear cut; the Spychanger incarnations of various 2001 Robots in Disguise characters, for instance, are simply scaled-down representations of the same characters in the same bodies, not meant to interact with the much larger "main" toys, as are the later "Legends of Cybertron" toys in Cybertron. Now that big bad Megatron has returned to Earth, Team Prime prepares for an epic struggle to save the planet. So don't expect this one to go away any time soon. Here is the height chart for the leaders in "TRANSFORMERS - Reddit Consequently, if the powers that be release toys of two characters in the same line in the same size class, they're going to come out in the same size. Even worse, Hasbro Pulse refers to a figure's height measurements as "figure scale". Revenge of the Fallen had scale guides featured in the 25 years of Transformers feature for the DVD release which showed official heights for both the Autobots and the Decepticons. For example, Optimus Prime can hold both Sam and Mikaela in one hand. Scale in Transformers is inconsistent to put it mildly. When interacting with the Autobot technology of the Ark and the Autobot shuttle, the Maximals are often dealing with equipment grossly oversized for them (standing on the chairs to reach the controls, turning knobs the size of their heads); yet the Ark also seems to feature some human-sized computer control panels. Another notable example is the splash screen for the "World of the Transformers" website, which depicts Optimus Primal (in his original gorilla body) as the same size as G1 Optimus Prime and Movie Optimus Prime, directly contradicting the size difference seen in "Optimal Situation" and elsewhere (except for Robotmasters). Optimus Prime was the first Prime to raise his hand in greeting, uniting all the Primes and becoming their official mediator. A cast that couldn't enter buildings would be grossly inconvenient for telling some stories, so the animators fudge things. In toy form, Lockdown's small alternate mode means you can either set his Deluxe-sized toy against a Voyager-or-smaller Prime for correct robot mode scale, or against a Leader-sized Prime toy for correct vehicle mode scale - but obviously not both! Over the course of the show's run-time, it won nine Daytime Emmy Awards, two CINE Awards and was nominated for several more, as well as consistently ranking as one of the Hub's most popular programs. In Transformers: Fall of Cybertron, Metroplex is portrayed not so much as the city, but a part of the city; with one hand being large enough to carry Optimus or crush Megatron. the Seekers to choose to get shorter when going into battle. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Sadly, the scale for this line doesn't translate as well for vehicle modes even within a single price point, plus Voyager-and-up toys of larger characters still have vehicle modes far too small compared to the cars. 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The directand indirectsuccessors to Alternators (Binaltech Asterisk, Kiss Players, Human Alliance) also maintained a mostly consistent internal scale with their car figures. Watch Transformers: Prime - Free TV Shows | Tubi Scale in Transformers is, not to put too fine a point on it, screwed. Most notably, the additional kibble added to their bodies shows in glaring contrast to already-existing car parts, indicating that their aerial forms are quite undersized. 5. Some can be attributed to animation errors, such as layering problems,123 but some "errors" were deliberate choices, for a variety of reasons. Though different stories have compared Cybertron/Primus and Unicron to drastically different real planets, the fact remains that they are planets, and yet are shown in such insane scale to characters as to suggest they are the size of a very small moon (or space station). The Action Master vehicles were designed to take advantage of the fact that the Action Master figures were all the same size. The Seekers are about right (going by robot mode, anyway, as ever), but Grimlock's reissue is a little shorter than MP-10 Optimus, when he should be about a head taller. Multiple toy sizes are generally irrelevant to the fiction, though the Cybertron cartoon featured Starscream inflating to planetary size, presumably in response to the super-large "King Starscream" toy available at the time. Megatron in The Last Knight is particularly confusing; while official sources state that there is only a two-foot height difference between Megatron and Optimus Prime, Megatron seems to tower over Prime in the shot where he steals Quintessa's staff, yet is almost exactly the same size as Optimus throughout the rest of the film. Conversely, Bumblebee is sometimes shown only a few feet taller than an average human, while in reality he would be 35 m (10'15') tall (the Marvel comic actually states he's 15' tall Plight of the Bumblebee!). Most fans agree that one must either ignore it or accept it, lest they be tempted to explain these problems and in the process fanwank themselves into oblivion. Official sizes and heights | Transformers Universe MUX | Fandom Sometimes this is deliberate, allowing them to match their toy scale and/or be of a similar size to other characters; in other cases, it is essentially an artistic error. Basicly what the tital says, its the Transfromers Prime Height Chart, its just a rough guess, but it holds most of the TFP and TFPBH cast hight and you could also use this for the TFA and TF-Films Rated: Fiction K - English - Words: 445 - Reviews: 9 - Favs: 18 - Follows: 8 - Published: 5/16/2013 - id: 9297736 This problem isn't just limited to the Generation 1 combiners either: Revenge of the Fallen Supreme Constructicon Devastator has a massive mining excavator form the lower portion of the torso, with your everyday type of cement mixer truck that's almost the same size forming the upper portion of the torso. The toy line, on the other hand, mostly ignores those additional components, resulting in massive scale discrepancies (see above) - Long Haul, who forms Devastator's right leg, is a massive Caterpillar 773B mining dump truck, which should make him considerably larger than Rampage, a Caterpillar D9L bulldozer who forms the left leg. Obviously I own nothing. heightchart transformersprime Pretty self-explanatory here. Omega Supreme, titanic in his original appearance, Command Performances! Some scale problems are for the sake of characterization. Therefore, Rhinox is a rather small rhinoceros (he's roughly the correct size for a Sumatran rhinoceros, but seriously undersized for a white rhinoceros, the two living species of rhinos with two horns and more or less the same head shape as his beast-mode), and Optimus Primal is a roughly normal gorilla. The Autobots learn of Project Predacon and race the Decepticons for the location of Predacon fossils, to prevent Shockwave from cloning more of the beasts. Devastator in the Season One scale guide was approximately 2.5 times the height of Optimus Prime, but by Season Two he was somewhat less than twice Prime's height. This is a visual cheat so the glasses are visible to the audience, and other visual cheats to make the robots seem shorter or taller were used in the movies. Here's is an unoffical Height chart of the famous Robot in Disguise From left to right, Here are his alt. Toys out of scale with others in the same line, Toys slightly out of scale with others in the same assortment, Intentional attempts at a consistent scale, Wait till you see the artist's rendition of a scale-accurate version, tiny (and correctly scaled) version of Scorponok, characters who traditionally don't have automobile alternate modes, giant, transformer-sized humanoids on an alien planet.

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